Lulu and I have purchased the van just outside the door. I will write a more detailed story when we bring it home. It is a brand new 2016 Honda Odyssey EX-L Navi. We plan to use it for long distance traveling. Proctor Honda in Tallahassee has a reputation for great deals and excellent service. It is about 4 miles from our home. Yes - we know the 2017 Honda van will look somewhat different.